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Thursday, March 12, 2009

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  1. KScottMarch 12, 2009 at 7:02 PM

    Thanks for being the first to contribute to our blog, Deb! I agree with what you say about the parents' role; still, the line gets fuzzy sometimes. Do you think some of the areas of growth in the role of schools (e.g., screenings) are because parents aren't doing their jobs--or does it just make economic (and social) sense? Or how about the NBER study that showed the link between health insurance and test scores? I mean, if the big push right now for schools is accountability, it's hard not for schools to feel their job is to do "whatever it takes" to raise scores--again, taking them into the health arena...

    I love this: "Schools are responsible for what they feed children, mentally and physcially."

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  2. marywlindMarch 13, 2009 at 11:13 AM

    Dear Deb, Loved your insights, and I must say I agree that the parents are ultimately responsible for their children and all their children’s needs. Did you get to read the article, “Ore. teachers want a bite at forbidden junk food”? published in EDWEEK. In it, some teachers in the state want the junk food vending machines to be allowed in their lounges despite them being banned from school grounds. What do you think? I think that these teachers are adults, and that the machines should be allowed in their own space. They are over 18. As for the children, they are underage and need to be educated on proper nutrition. Mary Lind

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  3. mnehlsMarch 14, 2009 at 8:02 AM

    Deb,
    I also agree that it is important to have immunizations in the school system, but they should be taken care out of school. A lot of times you will find schools that don't have a fulltime nurse. The nurse is divided amongst several schools and visits with a school one day a week. I think sending out literature to the parents explaining the immunizations and clinic information is fine.

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  4. SteffMarch 14, 2009 at 8:11 AM

    Deb... I agree that the parents should have a role in taking their child to get the vaccines, and I also liked how Ria presents her parents with free clinic information. In her presentation she discussed frustration with the parents who still don't follow through with their responsibility to immunize their children even when they can do it for free. I also find this frustrating. What do we think the reasoning is? Fear, not wanting to take financial assistance, laziness, busy with work?? Just curious on other's thoughts!
    I am glad you brought up the point of religious and government exemptions from the immunizations. This would be a conflict of church and state, as she stated, but I can see how the line would get fuzzy as people try to take advantage of the exemption. It is also necessary because some people can't get immunizations when they have a specific medical condition, but I guess this one is easier to prove (doctor's note). In class someone brought up the question of where they draw the line for religious reasons, do philosophical reasons count?
    When I was looking over the readings I discovered the article we read titled "Preschool Vaccines Upset NJ Parents" discussed the issue of exemptions from vaccines. "New Jersey, like most states, allows religious and medical exemptions for vaccination requirements. According to the National Conference of State Legislatures, 20 states also allow philosophical exemptions for those who object to immunizations because of a personal, moral, or other belief." I wanted to share this information I found because I know it was the question of some in class. The article went on to discuss the connection with autism and the fear that immunizations increases the prevelance. I can see how this could play in to parent's choices.

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  5. KScottMarch 14, 2009 at 9:21 AM

    I agree with Miranda about the schools nurse situation; at a time we have increasing numbers of "medically fragile" children, we are cutting back on the necessary resources to address their needs--and the needs of all children.
    The vaccine issue is significant, Steff. The reasons parents don't get them? Probably "all of the above." Just like there's no "one size fits all" instructional approach, I think the same thing needs to be kept in mind regarding parents. But that makes it hard to "legislate" solutions....

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  6. Manders1208March 15, 2009 at 1:02 PM

    Deb-
    I do think it is the parents responsibility to get immunizations for their children. From Ria's point of view, I do feel that she should not be responsible for giving out all of those shots, unless of course like she said, a pay raise or some kind of compensation is involved. I guess we just need to keep on the parents who are not doing it. I don't know exactly how to get the "lazy" parents to cooperate though.

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